[RECAP] — Itheum x WonderHero Partnership AMA
Hi guys, I’m Ethan. I’m the co-founder and CEO of WonderHero.
Today we’re really excited because today is the first time we’re doing an AMA with a very very important partner of ours and we’re going to be talking a lot more about the depth of this web 3 game and where it’s going and why we’re putting in so much effort for this infrastructure today.
And we’re going to share a lot more with you about it and we have a special guest today, Mark Paul the Founder and CEO of Itheum, Mark maybe you can give us something true about yourself.
Mark Paul (Itheum):
Thanks, Ethan for having me. We’ve done a few of these and we’ve had a few calls as well, so excited to be here amongst your community to kind of introduce this pretty awesome partnership. So hi everybody my name is Mark Paul, I’m the Co-founder & CEO of Itheum and I will explain what Itheum is.
I’ve got some slides I think it’s very important for us to explain them clearly. In our previous AMA when we hosted you guys over on our discord, we had some high-level discussions but I think today the goal is to be very clear and explain to you what Itheum is, what the gamer passport is, and what our partnership’s about.
Before we jump into the AMA itself, can you give us a little bit of a background about yourself and how and why you started Itheum as well?
Mark Paul (Itheum):
Yeah, sure man. I’m based in Sydney, Australia. I’ve been in traditional tech for like 20 years, so not born into crypto tech. Effectively, I spent about 10 years in digital health and I used to work for the government of Australia specifically digital health and I saw a lot of issues with data.
If you look at data it’s just locked up in silos everywhere and I noticed this pattern in sort of every industry, health, retail gaming, etc. What we wanted to do was build a tech stack from the ground up to like re-envision what this should look like in an open meta world. So if we move to a metaverse, are we going to continue with this sort of data-holding practice? We built Itheum from the ground up to be a core data protocol for the open metaverse. The team is based in various parts of the world, most of them in Europe, Romania, Dubai, and I’m based here… yeah we’re really all of us are hardcore data privacy fans and we all come from quite traditional heavy data backgrounds. That’s well, a bit of background about me and the team.
Cool! Let’s jump into the first question of the AMA right now.
Can you tell us more about Itheum and what exciting offers Itheum has for gamers, especially when coming into web3? And I believe you have prepared some slide showcases as well.
Mark Paul (Itheum):
yeah sure, so Ethan if it’s okay, i’ll present the slides. It’ll take about six minutes or so and I want to be a bit cover the entire product in detail and then maybe we can come back to the questions if that’s okay from a format.
Also for the audience, if there are some parts that you’re not sure, about or you wanted to find out more about, feel free to comment over there, and then, later on, I will select a few and get Mark to answer, to get you guys to understand why we’re talking about this. All right let’s go sure!
Mark Paul (Itheum):
I’m going to talk about gamer passports and how it’s going to transform web3 gaming. Itheum effectively what we’re doing is we’re creating what we call mirror humans.
We’re building the tech that lets you own control and trade your data in the open metaverse. Effectively we have three parts to our tech stack.
Firstly, we let you bridge high-value personal data from web 2 into web3.
Secondly, we let you claim ownership of your data in web3
And third, we have a protocol that lets you trade this data and earn shared value.
So at a high level, this is kind of our tech stack at the bottom. Here you’ll notice we have multi-chain and we are not aligned to a single chain. Our token itself is launched on the Elrond blockchain but we are building in parity, so we have EVM and non-EVM support, so we are deployed to a bunch of test nets on EVM side, and we’re deploying to Elrond within a couple of weeks time.
So that’s the multi-chain protocol at the bottom there. I thought on the right here, you see our first product called the data cat. This is the part where we bring in high-value data from web 2 into Web3. We do this via data adapters.
The second part is called the data dexs. You can actually use our data dex on our testnet the link is on our website. This is the peer-to-peer data protocol, it lets you trade data peer-to-peer in various sorts using various tools like data NFTs, which I’ll explain what are later unless you also trade in bulk through data coalition dials.
And the top layer is the exciting layer right, this is where you have our NFMe ID avatar which represents your identity in the metaverse, and it encapsulates all of these complex texts underneath it. We’ll probably cover a few of these concepts as we go on.
So what are we doing in gaming? As you can see we are like a horizontal without a platform, so why are we looking at gaming? Well gaming is just a vertical and it just so happens we love gaming and our team is full of gamers, so we were looking at what problems to solve there. And if you look at what’s happening in gaming today, you know we’ve got Guilds and they’ve got these players, which is their player liquidity, and their Guilds have got these assets which are their gain asset liquidity.
And what guilds are doing at the moment in Web3 gaming is basically top-down data collection. These guilds basically are trying to map the best player liquidity to their game asset liquidity, so they can optimize their learnings. And how they’re doing this right now and is they’re spending hours and hours on operations, they’re doing manual data collection.
If you guys are part of our scholars or part of guilds you’ll probably know that you’re filling a bunch of google forms docs, they’re sending screenshots. What they are effectively doing is collecting your personal data.
What Itheum is recommending is that we need to move to a bottom-up data collection because this is the future. This is the future we see in various other industries, so you at the center as a gamer, at the center of this is that you’re playing multiple games.
You are part of probably multiple guilds and you’re part of multiple discords, communicating with the community helping them out at the same time. You’re pretty active on social media and streaming platforms and you’re even doing a bunch of things in DeFi, right like you’re taking your tokens your NFTs, you’re doing stuff in DeFi.
What happening here is you’re leaving data everywhere on-chain off-chain data, so Itheum’s goal is to use our on-chain and off-chain data adapters, and put you in control of the data, let’s you own it and that’s effectively what we’re trying to do: Bottom Up Data Collection.
This is a bit of a complex slide, we’ll come back to this back and forth as we discussed, but this is how the entire tech stack fits into place. On the top here, you get the games and the guilds and yourselves as gamers.
In the center here, we have the data coalition DAO. The role of the data coalition DAO is to bulk trade your gaming data, and to share the value back with you. So Itheum starter adapters bring in the on-chain and off-chain data, we attach it to your NFME ID passport, that’s your gamer passport. You can view your data at any time, it belongs to you, so you can see insights about yourself your own gaming history, your own social behavior and all of that.
And all you have to do is align your data sets to the DAO, and you do this because you want to pull a bulk data set. Your data alone is not worth a lot of money but if you pool it with people doing similar things like playing similar games involved, in similar Guilds, now this data set is very valuable. And the DAO’s responsibility is to find consumers of this data set with your consent.
Every time they trade, effectively they’re buying a license to use the data through our data NFTs, you earn value straight off. This entire ecosystem runs with the Itheum token, when people buy bulk data from the DAO, the micro payments and Itheum tokens are sent back to the data creator, and we can do this thanks to the way we have our gamer passports incorporated in the system.
Now as a WonderHero gamer, you’re probably like… okay what does this partnership mean to you right? Well, you are the FIRST in the world to be whitelisted to mint NFME ID soul-bound avatar. You will be the first to be able to do this.
And secondly, as I explained, your data is put into the bulk data set and people buy access to this, you earn Itheum tokens in return for sharing your data. There are a few steps here, Ethan, i don’t know if you want me to cover this right now but this is basically a step-by-step approach, and how we’re going to mint your gamer passport. Should I cover it now or maybe I’ll come back to this a bit later?
Oh no, I think it’s good you know that we cover this foundation so that our audience may have more questions about the steps. I think it’s good to cover it now.
Mark Paul [Itheum]:
Okay, let’s do it, man. Do we get asked quite often how we get our hands on one of these gamer passports? Well, there are a bunch of steps here, it might seem very complicated but I assure you when you actually use it it’ll be quite simple.
Step 1 is you need to join a supported guild, game, or the Itheum discord. One of the Guilds, we support is Polkastarter gaming guild, we’re launching that partnership within a few weeks. Potentially, WonderHero might incorporate within its discord itself, we could incorporate the gamer passport onboarding app. And the Itheum discord already has it installed, so you can head over to Itheum discord and you can participate right now.
Step 2 is once you’re in this supported guild, you just run a command to register and there’s a registration process that happens there. The registration process is nothing more than you linking your on-chain gaming wallets and your off-chain identities. In other words, these are the wallets i used to play this game, these are my social identities and I give you consent to look at high-level data. Nothing we collect is without consent and we never collect real personal information.
We are collecting longitudinal data in other words. We’re collecting counts of things, this is how many times you did this, this is how many times you said this. We never collect personal data and everything we collect is very clear to you.
Step 4, is then the once you’ve linked all of this, Itheum data adapters work behind the scenes, we have on-chain and off-chain adapters collecting your gaming footprint. As you’re playing WonderHero, we’re looking at the contracts, we’re seeing what footprint you’re leaving behind and we’re working with WonderHero now with the private API, collecting some private data linking it to you, looking at your discord activity, your social activity, how much you’re participating in streams, how much you’re helping people. We’re collecting all of this data, nothing personal like I said.
Think of this as a very sort of de-identified data. You can then view your gaming data insights at any time. So we have a dashboard where you can see all of your data at any time, it all belongs to you.
Step 6, is now when we’re moving into web3. Next, you’re going to go into Itheum Data Dex which is how you decentralize that.
Step 7 is you’re going to be whitelisted now to mint your NFME ID gamer passport. It looks really cool it’s an interoperable 3d avatar, it’s not one of these flat NFTs. It’s fully rotatable, you can even port it into supported platforms and walk around. It’s very cool.
Step 8 is you mint a data NFT. Now what this is, is a license to use your data. You got your NFME ID gamer passport, you mint your data NFT which is a license to use the data.
Step 9 is you align now to a data coalition DAP. Remember what I was telling you about the DAO. This is the data coalition DAO that aligns bulk data and then bulk trades it. And effectively you’re delegating your data NFT to it and you’re letting it trade on your behalf.
Step 10 the data coalition now bulk trades the game of passport data with Guilds, Games, and other approved consumers in return for Itheum tokens.
Step 11 is each time the bulk data set is purchased, the license is used, and you get a share of your Itheum tokens. A very important step to remember here is in step 10 if you decided to align to the data coalition DAO and if any time you decide, I don’t like this data coalition DAO, you can exit at any time and you can walk away.
This is really the power of web3-based data trading, you get a choice on how your data has been used. And if you don’t like it, you can walk away, even if you don’t like who’s running the data coalition DAO, you can even raise a vote. You can initiate a vote and if other people agree with you, the DAO would have to realign its sort of membership structure.
So we’re putting all these pieces together to enable decentralized data trade. That’s my last slide, we have a super exciting announcement but I’ll actually leave that for later and we’ll come back to that later on.
All right cool man, I think it’s quite elaborate. I really really like it, I mean we have a few more questions we’ll go deeper into this.
From my perspective, as the Founder of WonderHero, a lot of our community members who are watching this AMA, just to give you guys a little bit of perspective, so you’re playing the game you’re earning from PVE, you’re also earning from PVP, and then you’re discussing a lot about builds, which are the best built to play in discord or telegram. You are also earning from NFTs, you sell NFTs on the marketplace, so this is the projectile of the game. Now suddenly with Itheum’s partnership, with all this decentralized information you get to possess this data, and with this data when you deposit your NFME avatar, which is your representation of your data into the data Dex, and then from there, through time you’ll be able to see that… hey besides playing the game when you’re earning WND, HON or NFT itself, you are also using your data to earn more Itheum tokens.
So that’s why earlier in the AMA, I mentioned this Itheum partnership is a second-degree kind of play and earn. With your involvement in WonderHero, you get to see that with this infrastructure that we have set up, you may be able to see where the web 3 game is going moving forward. This is only the start, and you guys as mentioned by Mark, users of WonderHero are the first in the world to be whitelisted to get this NFME ID
And then you know in terms of capturing value and how far it can go. This is the beginning but we all know when you are at the beginning…. from you know, Bitcoin Itheum or anything like that, you guys are the pioneers. You guys will also be forming the key feedback to Mark and his team together with us as well, to see where this web 3 data is going to go as well.
So I want to jump on to the next question…
Question: The idea of having true ownership of your gaming data is truly intriguing can you share with our community what is the use case and how it benefits gamers so that we can have a glimpse of the near future?
Mark Paul (Itheum):
Yeah, a good question. What’s happening today, and if you guys are gamers and scholars, you’re probably used to this. You’re going through guilds, you’re applying for scholarships, you’re leaking your data everywhere you go right but it just so happens the Guilds themselves are trying to optimize the operations.
They need your data. A gamer data is very valuable to them because what they’re trying to do, is find their best gamers, the quickest learners, the quickest earners, and the most helpful community members.
They’re trying to optimize everything within their game like the scholarship pipelines, they’re trying to optimize their asset utilization, and this is just gaming right. We’re just talking purely about gaming and within gaming itself, we have so many use cases targeted at Guilds, who are very interested in these data sets.
Now, let’s look at the other sort of use cases. Let’s look at GameFi, we’re seeing this overlap now of DeFi within gaming, and lending within gaming, and a lot of this is coming down to data, they need to know a bit more about you to understand if they can lend to you.
They want to look at not just your own chain collateral, maybe a little bit of your social activity, like how good is this person in discord, like you know they’ve been super helpful to everybody, I’m gonna let them a little bit more because they’re a good team player.
It starts to open up all of these amazing doors right and even these data sets become super valuable to the games themselves trying to understand their actual gamers…
What made them join the game?
How long did they stay?
How quickly did they learn?
How quick did they earn?
How did they react to a new version of the game?
Did they slow down playing everything?
Everything is a data footprint and this is insane when you think about it like you leave this data wherever you’re going. What Itheum is going gonna do is gonna get collect it and give it to you. And then you just have to bulk assign this to a data coalition DAO, and now I mean it’s very important to know that you don’t have to wreck your mind to think how do I sell this? All you have to do is to align to a data coalition DAO, delegate it to them and let them sell it for you, and then share their earnings with you.
okay, this is impromptu but then I just want to touch on this as well. I think about seven weeks ago if I’m not wrong, Tesla mentioned that they are going to let their cars be able to use for taxi services in autonomous mode. And many years ago, a lot of people they are talking about Tesla is not in the business of cars. Tesla is in the business of data. With their cars, they are mapping out the entire data and the map and data of drivers in the United States for example.
And with that data, they can use that to do a lot of things but in this case, it has nothing to do with the drivers; you bought the car you’re churning out data for the company that’s it.
In retrospect, WonderHero is a play-and-earn game, you get to play a web 3 game, but on top of that, using your data, you’ll be able to churn out even more information like what Mark mentioned. You don’t have to worry about thinking about how, and what to do with your data.
Because of Itheum services, they created this convenience for everybody, so I thought that was a very very good point because it’s really really hassle-free.
I think I saw a comment from Setty, which I think a lot of people are probably thinking about it, even though you did mention it is… why would someone want to sell their private data?
In this case, the context of this question is already there, because like this person doesn’t believe in selling their private data, maybe you can address them for everyone.
Mark Paul (Itheum):
Yeah, it’s a very very good question. Thanks for that, Setty.
I think one thing to call out here is that you are already giving away your private data. In the world that you live in right now, your private data is gone. You have no say in this. Everything you generate is being traded in a data brokerage market, that’s worth 200 billion dollars.
So the world you live in right now, you’re already at a loss. What we’re doing in Itheum is introducing this concept where, at least if you want to trade your personal data, you can claim ownership of it and it’s a new economy that you have never been part of, you’ve been kept on the sidelines.
Now the choice is still yours, you still have the choice to go and get a game and passport, you still have a choice to register, and you still have a choice to mint your data NFT, which is the license to use your data, you still have a choice to go and join the data coalition DAO.
These options are never available to you in web 2, so I think we get this question a lot and when we explain to people, you already are not getting your data ownership, you’re already being exploited, so anything is better than the system we have right now.
It just so happens that Itheum is trying to build a system that really puts you in charge at the center of this problem.
Yeah, I think that’s a good way of addressing it.
I think now that we’re on this subject I’m going to jump to the next question because there’s a bridge between these two. So, security is definitely one of the key concerns for users, especially for users obviously that choose to sell their data or trade their data. So to help users have a better sense of this, Mark, can you share how Itheum ensures the security of personal data?
Mark Paul (Itheum):
Yeah sure okay. it’s a good question again. Now, as I was walking through the stack and let’s talk about gamer passport because that’s the first product that we’re launching right. The on-chain adapters and the off-chain adapters are collecting de-identified data and nothing personal right, like we have a Discord adapter, for example, that’s looking at your social data and we’re just counting things we’re counting how many times we do this so there’s nothing sensitive there we’re very careful about what we’re collecting.
Now when you bring this sort of low sensitive data, de-identified longitudinal data, very important right, like in other words, we’re collecting like benchmarks like on a daily basis. In other words, our Discord adapter is looking at your engagement on a daily basis. That’s all we’re collecting.
Now when you bring it into the Data Dex right, you want to onboard it into the database, and you now have the ability to attach some personal information to it. Maybe your age, maybe your gender, maybe your location. The difference is the way when you enter the database, you’re storing this in a data vault and the data vault is using a per-user encryption scheme.
Let me explain that a little bit further. Let’s say you join some web 2 app or maybe you just get you to know google account or something. Your data is stored in a centralized database and all encrypted in the same way. So when an attacker attacks it and de-encrypts it, they get the entire data set right, and all the users’ identity is exposed.
With the data vault, it’s per user encryption and if an attacker attacks this, every person in this has different encryption so it’s not practical for them to use it. It’s just complete gibberish. It’s very unattractive from a honeypot point of view to attack.
Now you within the data decks can choose whether you want to just sell your low sensitive data, that I spoke about like just the longitudinal data, or you’re going to say you know what I’m going to sell this and I’m going to attach my a copy of my first data vault, which now increases the value of that right but again you have the choice.
You can also just say, you know what I’m happy to just participate by selling my low like more sensitive data, and later on when I have confidence in the system, maybe I bring in my personal data board and sell it. You can exit anytime, you can sever the access at any time, all of these options which you can’t do right now are available to you.
This is the version we are building now, the version we are building in the future is actually significantly more advanced from an encryption point of view even the low sensitive data is going to follow a per-user encryption scheme. It’s going to be security is at the heart of what we do privacy and security.
All right, so I have an impromptu question over here, maybe I want to ask everybody who’s watching as well and also I mean after this AMA we’re going to archive it as well I’m sure you know the audience that is watching this post recorded video will be asking this as well.
So I mean, we’re talking about security here right, I want to address a little bit more about personal identity here. Because when your information is in the Data Dex, I’m not sure like your personal identity information is not going to be there, correct?
Mark Paul (Itheum):
it’s not going to be there, you’re logging in with your wallet. Now, we have a feature called data vault, and the idea of the data vault is if you want to put some personal information or let’s say if you’re looking at your gamer passport and you’ve collected this really valuable on-chain off-chain data set if you want to attach your age group or your gender or whatever it is you can actually put it in your data vault and do it.
But again, this is a choice that you have, if you don’t want to do this, don’t do it. Your data is still valuable in its original form but yes you do have a choice.
No actually, what i mean is because like for myself, I was a financial consultant in the bank, so we know what is sensitive information, for example, your name, your id number, your email, your address, your mobile number. Those are extremely sensitive information because if the wrong people have this information then it’s compromised. But then, I personally don’t feel that age is a piece of sensitive information here because their age is not tied to a personal identity here. So it’s just this wallet address and this age that’s it right? So I don’t think there’s any concern, so that’s what I want to drive at, because if there’s no personal information personal identity information over here, then I don’t think there’s any issue in terms of a security issue when it comes to relevance with a personal identity.
I think that’s what I’m driving at.
Mark Paul (Itheum):
Yeah no absolutely right. I would say for the gamer passport, we probably don’t even have to use the data vault. The data vault is there for other use cases and maybe health, and all these things where you need some personal information but we protect it in a next special way.
For the game of passport, I think we don’t even need to do this.
Yeah, so cool I get it right. So I think we address that security of personal data here because it’s not that personal actually. Yeah, all right, so the next question, I think with relevant to a lot of people who are watching this, as well we announced our strategic partnership and many of our community members you know are very excited about it. Can you tell us why you know Itheum decided to form this partnership with WonderHero?
Mark Paul (Itheum):
Yeah, I can absolutely tell everyone, Ethan. And it’s a good story as well.
So I mean, even before Itheum launched, so we launched that token in February or March of this year, we started speaking to Ethan. We were introduced to Ethan and the team, and we started talking to them and we probably spoke to every game every guild, and we were looking at synergies.
Because we were bringing a horizontal with three data platforms and said listen we’d like to do something in gaming, let’s come, let’s collaborate. And with everyone we spoke to, we found out that almost every guild is trying to build one of these systems of their own and what we told them was you know we got a lot more expertise in this, let us build it we’ll collaborate.
But you know, it just felt like they were not quite ready to kind of have a synergy and collaborate and we spoke to games but when we spoke to you, Ethan specifically, I remember you seemed to get it immediately and you were like… okay this startup thing yeah we need to get on top of this.
Our gamers are very important to us, and our community is very important to us, we need to get on top of this, and we need to embrace this. And we felt like almost immediately we kind of we saw eye to eye, so that was one because that signals that we can work very well together.
And then secondly, when we launched the token you were very supportive, the team was very supportive and we kind of started looking at your game. So even, in Itheum’s team, we have on the WonderHero gamers. Very important, we love the game ourselves and we started looking at the contracts. We’re looking at the data footprint and we said wow this is really cool you guys have designed the game in such a way.
It’s leaving a really good footprint of data, very valuable stuff. This makes so much more sense to the gamer passport. So yeah, we built it, in fact, it’s already built and we started testing it and yeah this is effectively why we were so excited to partner with WonderHero.
Yeah, cool thanks so much! I want to add to this point because this is often overlooked by a lot of our community members and a lot of our gamers because the level of thought and effort and execution on our game’s infrastructure cannot be seen with the naked eye.
All those things are just the basis and the infrastructure of the experience of the WonderHero game as we know it today. And now we are adding another, as I mentioned earlier this is the third time I mentioned now, we are adding a second degree to this gaming experience, which it’s totally outside of the game and yet it is part of the experience.
That is why this is so exciting and also on our part when we spoke to Itheum, we thought that hey this is exactly what we’re looking for right. We get a second degree of potential income for our web 3 gamers and whatever you have participated from, let’s say January all the way to June, for example, even in December there will still be people using this data and whatever data they’ve contributed in June, you’re still enjoying the benefits from it.
Now that is incredible I think that is almost like I’m not going to use the word passive but I’m just gonna save like you’re practically like having something to mint value for you with your past works if that makes sense.
Right, I wanna jump to the next question, question 5.
So our community is very keen on this, I think over the last few weeks people have been asking about this already right. They wanna find out how and when they can get their hands on their own NFME ID.
Mark Paul (Itheum):
Yeah, absolutely man. I’m gonna just very quickly share that last slide I have now. I think it’s the right time to talk about that and let me just pull it up real quick.
Question: Our Community is very keen on this. How and when can they get their hands on their own NFme ID?
Mark Paul (Itheum):
WonderHero is our partner, we launched a partnership with Polkastarter Gaming Guild.There are WonderHero Scholars in there, Gamers in there so you can also get your hands on it through Polkerstarter Gaming Guild, starting in about two to three weeks when they’re launching.
But this is the big announcement we wanted to have, that we have actually built the Gamer Passport already and we have an alpha version of it. We’ve built the Data Adapters that are collecting data about WonderHero game, we’ve built a discord adapter and we’ve been testing it on Itheum’s discord so in Etheum’s discord we have a special area for WonderHero and we stream WonderHero in there. We have WonderHero quizzes. In fact, we have a WonderHero quiz tomorrow so you guys should come and join us! We’ve been streaming twice a week on WonderHero games and a lot of people have asked us that, “you are a data project, why are you streaming games?”
Why we were doing that is because we are actually testing our data adapters — we were getting gamers to come in stream, we monitor their gameplay, we wanted their discord activity, we’re monitoring their streams, we’re monitoring how engaged they’re in the streams, how much feedback they’re getting their streams and we are associating that to the Gamer Passport.
So two days ago we were very happy with the first version of our tech, we’ve labeled it Alpha and we are actually opening it up so we have like 50 spots open up, so head over to our discord just talk to our CMs there tell that you’re interested, participate in the quiz tomorrow because that will be our first step towards you being shortlisted. Come and join our streams, this is one way you can do it and of course maybe Ethan will talk about this later on, maybe within your Discord if you guys are open to opening up a few spots we can do that too.
Absolutely! Right so, again you know the audience who are watching this, you saw this right there’s only 50 developer slots, you guys have very, very good leverage. Your time that you spend here over the last 46 minutes it’s worth it. Snap up these Alpha slots right now because once it’s snapped up, again you know, we have to discuss about increasing that and all that but this is really limited.
If you have time go ahead and do it and then also Mark, we are also going to be posting the past two slides the step 1 to 10 as well as the Alpha thing. We’re going to put it up on our Medium as well right so so that when this AMA, the Post-Recorded Version is posted on our YouTube channel and Twitter, people can also observe this watch it and then also participate and they will want to join as well.
Right so, this is really exciting! I feel so honored to be the first over here really and this leads to the next thing right we have talked about a few current things so let’s talk about a little bit about the future:
Question: What is the road map ahead for this partnership?
Mark Paul (Itheum):
Yeah, so the the first goal was to form what we call “The Triangle Partnership” so that’s Itheum providing the Gamer Passport, a really good game which is WonderHero, which because it leads such an awesome footprint but at the same time it’s so engaging and then we needed the guild all right and then we spoke to Polkastarter Gaming Guild — they totally get it, they were very quick to agree to the partnership and now we have the Data Creator which is the gamer creating the data then we have WonderHero which is the sort of the subject matter expert of this data and then now we have the data consumer, the guild willing to buy the data set.
What we’re going to do now is replicate this further. We bring in more Guilds, we look at different chains, we’re a multi-chain protocol, we’re talking to Elrond’s biggest deal coming up, multiple games in that. The same sort of model moves around. What is mind-blowing here is the data footprint we’re collecting is not just one chain, not just BSC, Polygon, we can go anything.
We’re collecting this and attaching it to you right so you can now move as a Gamer between chains, playing games between Guilds, taking with you your Gamer Passport as like your CV right. You don’t have to now go and tell people, “Hey I’m a really good gamer”, you can just literally go and say, “Hey just look at my gamer passport, it’s got like 10 years worth of my gaming so maybe not 10 years maybe two years worth of gaming.” So this is like what we’re doing and this is our roadmap, we’re incrementally adding in new partners and we’re going to grow it further but we have insane amount of other partnerships we’re going to announce in other verticals, in retail in and all these things now are all kind of like synergizing together.
Alright and for context for our audience, which are WonderHero users, “What is coming for me?”, “What’s the roadmap ahead for this partnership?” is we have already established the first key sets of API with Itheum. So in terms of seeing the fruition of this is a matter of time, so once we got this API, we will do the Beta Test together with Itheum. Once we run this test, we’ll make this announcement real quick. I don’t think it’ll be too long because we have been working on it for awhile already and then that’s the beginning.
From there between Itheum and WonderHero, we have already scripted layer one of this API, we’re gonna go deeper with these Data Sets and I think Mark already revealed a little bit because of their potential partnerships with other retail partnerships or big conglomerates, etc. Your data now not only just has relevance with Web3 Games but now it has a lot of relevance with other industries and cross industries and I think that Depth itself is pretty huge in terms of this partnership.
There was a question that I saw that was quite important, I think Dixon asked earlier that as a scholar, “Will they be able to have their own Data Set that they own as a scholar?
Mark Paul (Itheum):
Yes, this is a good question and this is something we’re exploring now like at the moment we’re looking at the game like you are actually a direct gamer, not a scholar. I think from what we’ve been looking at and Ethan, you can correct me if i’m wrong, is the scholarship model, the gamer still owns the address right like unlike the other games where they’re leasing addresses. I think that’s that’s the other reason why we wanted to work with WonderHero and maybe correct me if i’m wrong, is that accurate?
Yeah it is accurate.
Mark Paul (Itheum):
Yeah so in that case yes even if you’re a scholar you can participate in this and i think that’s also super cool.
Alright cool. So I think Dixon, I hope we answer your question.
Now right, it’s out of the way, Scholars can get to own their own data and use your data to earn some income as well as revenue. We have a few questions that the community asked you know i think in the last few days that we prepared. It’s quite a few of them.
Question: What will be the procedure for issuing gamer passports?
Mark Paul (Itheum):
Yeah so I did cover that in that one slide, at a high level you just have to find a supported game guild discord because the way you actually interact with all of this is just through a discord bot right and we’re trying to make it as easy as possible so find a supported Guild, PGG is going to be the first supported Guild, WonderHero’s first supported game or you can just come to Itheum’s discord which supports it by default and then you now have to get a specific role within the discord, we just call it the Gamer Passport Role. The moment you have that role you can talk to the bot and the first step you do is you register: just “/register” which then lets you basically prove ownership of your addresses through making you sign some stuff and also improving on superb virtual accounts.
The moment you complete registration the Data Adapters start working collecting data and linking it to you — that’s the first step, that is your registration. Let’s say you play for like one month and now you’re collecting all this data, you want to then start moving to the second step which is you want to mint your NFme ID Avatar which is your Gamer Passport which represents your identity. Second is you mint your Data NFT which represents the license to use your data set. Third, you just join the Data Coalition DAO so once you do this that’s it. You delegate it, have a wallet and every time your data set is traded, sold and resold, etc, you get micro payments of Itheum tokens.
This is high level if you guys want to deep dive into this, come to our discord we have our team ready to help you there.
The next question i think is addressed to me:
Question: To further expand the WonderHero community, can the new partners provide Scholarships?
My answer is yes. New partners can provide Scholarships. Now existingly, we have concluded that we’re going to be trying out with a few Guilds to expand their scholarships right using the existing tokens we’re going to see the data from it and if it makes sense if it works for us in terms of expansion and scaling. I think we can explore that when it comes to new partners moving forward.
I think that’s exciting as well because now we’re talking about a healthier ecosystem there’s to do with WND and HON tokens. I’ll be talking more about that in our next AMA.
Question: What will benefit our WonderHero scholars with the new partnership and gamer passports?
Mark Paul (Itheum):
Yeah so I think Ethan explain this right like what we’re trying to do here is you are already in this ecosystem where we are generating a lot of data and at the moment you don’t even know this is silently being generated, used in different ways.
What we’re doing is we are seamlessly enabling, and I don’t want to say earn right like because then it just becomes “earned”. We are seamlessly bringing new value for you that you don’t even know that you had. Ethan also mentioned this, imagine you have played six months worth of WonderHero, you have got better at it and you have discovered new sort of insights from it, you can take all of this historic stuff and attach it to your Gamer Passport.
It’s like having a Linkedin profile for your Gaming. Now if you’re wondering what use of this is for me, you know you could use this in so many different ways just like you use Linkedin. Maybe you’re using to find other gamers to do specific things, maybe to expand your social circles, learn if you can play other games, join other Guilds, earn other ways. You are already leaving such a big data footprint. All they’re doing is they’re giving it to you and then saying, “okay now do what you want with this you could even earn from this and it opens up all these doors.”
Okay, I think I understand the context a little bit more about this question as well. So whoever who asks this question should be a scholar right? So don’t worry about it right, your Guild Masters will also have their data decks, have their data as a Guild Master for the Guild. You as a scholar, as an individual player as well, you have your own specific wallet address and because of that, you will be able to churn out your own gamer data that belongs to you as a scholar. It belongs to you, not the Guild. It belongs to you and you will be able to use that to deposit into the Data Decks.
Mark Paul (Itheum):
Ethan, correct me if we’ve got this wrong. Maybe you’re a Scholar with a Guild and then for whatever reason maybe you want to go to another Guild, maybe you have a better revenue split there so you’re going to go there. Now we go to this new Guild and the new Guild will be like, “Okay I don’t know anything about you. Are you a good gamer?” You can literally just say: “Here’s my gamer passport, it’s got all my history to it and then you can very quickly onboard to this new Guild.”
It gives you the ability, the flexibility to choose. For the first time you get to choose now like, “Okay I can go to a new guild and participate.”
Well that makes a lot of sense. I think that makes a lot of people a lot of Guilds’ Life easier. I have a last question from the Community, later we’ll pick a few from the comments.
Question: How many projects that are using this Gamer Passport? Can we see a bigger picture about this in the future?
Mark Paul (Itheum):
I think we can give a glimpse about it. Yeah so WonderHero is the first. Like we said, we’re launching with WonderHero, you guys will be the first to mint the first first batch of NFme ID Gamer Passports. But like we said, we’re bringing the Guild in, who’s going to be the Consumer for the Data Set and then we’re expanding to other games and we’re expanding to other Guilds, other Chains. Elrond’s something we’re very keen on, we are part of the Elrond Ecosystem, we’ve seen the games that are coming there, we’ve seen the guilds that are scaling up. It seems like a grassroots project. They might be a bit “later” to the party but they’re starting at an advantage of technology and we feel like they are quite mature in how they’re launching so we’re going to be embedded right into that.
But as a gamer you now have the flexibility of moving between Chains, between Games, between Guilds and continuously collecting your data footprint as you go and then making it easier for you to embed into new ecosystems better.
Question: If you decide to walk away from a Data Collection DAO, the Data that you had in your Gamer Passport, will it be purged?
Mark Paul (Itheum):
That’s an excellent question. This is a concept that’s applicable in any industry right now. You have minted your Data NFT which is the License to use your data then you have gone to the Data Coalition DAO and said, “I delegate my license to you, you trade on my behalf.” And then effectively that gives them the license to decrypt the data and use it and trade it.
If you’re wondering how the trade works, we’re looking at a Subscription Model. In other words, to use the Data Set, you pay per month right and then as you get to choose, you can say “I’ll let you use it for maybe two months.” So think of it as a time-based subscription and then after two months the subscription ends and they can’t use it anymore. Now this is quite tricky right because you have actually told them to use it and they have used it and then you have earned some value so technically you got paid by them using your data. Now, let’s say six months down the track you say, “Okay I’m out.” Does that mean a refund, you have to refund them? I think this is where it gets tricky and what we have to think about is, you made the choice for them to use the data set but you can stop them using it. You can actually leave maybe six months down the line and they won’t use it anymore, your Data Set is pulled off from the bulk Data Set but you can’t obviously stop them from Historic Use, you have to either refund them or something. I hope that makes sense.
To summarize, you can exit at any point and only from that point on, they can’t use your data but if they have paid you for using your data, then of course you can’t go back on it.
I think that concludes the end of this AMA. I think it’s a lot more insightful, a lot more different and also relevant to our Gamers from around the world about what they can do with Gamer Passports. I like to reiterate this again — WonderHero Gamers and Players get to be the first and there are 50 Alpha Whitelist spots available right now. We’ll be posting this after this AMA. If you guys want you can join itheum.io/discord
Mark Paul (Itheum):
Just join there we got our CMs waiting to advise you on what to do next. Thank you for the questions, I can see that people are interested in this, we feel that it’s still a difficult concept to grasp because this is something no one’s used to. No one’s been in charge of their data, no one’s earned from their data so you guys are going to be the first and not just in Gaming — First in the world to be exposed to this concept. It’s mind-blowing when you think about it. So Ethan as always, I always enjoy talking to you. Thank you for having me, thank you for the community for having me. We’re looking for a long-term partnership with you guys and your community.
Yeah great man! And so I mean this is just a suggestion, I don’t think Mark and I have discussed about this, I think it’s a good idea after we have roll out the API, and Itheum is already collecting all this data from players that gave the consent, I think we can followup a full AMA to say what did this Data transpire to and what did this users get. I think that will be very fun.
Mark Paul (Itheum):
Yeah absolutely man. We really literally want to. Our Data Coalition DAO is the technology is still about four months away but we have a way to run the DAO offline so we are going to actually be able to prove this entire life cycle and then I think we can come back again, look at our learnings, iterate further, improve it. It’s going to be a really awesome community-based iteration.
Yeah cool, then we will have a second AMA with Itheum and we can ask a few of our users that contributed. What is their experience and what are they seeing now in terms of Web3 Data and Web3 Games.
Mark Paul (Itheum):
Even better — we’ll bring a Guild in as well, we’ll bring PGG and we’ll have this round table about how this Ecosystem is.
That sounds very exciting. Having these ideas I’m actually very excited to see what it will transpire. Guys, thanks so much to all of you for attending this. I think it has been a very insightful AMA. In case you missed out on anything, there will be a post recorded video of the AMA, a whole one hour and five minutes of it. You can go check out and you can maybe write down notes of what Mark says and also you can go to itheum.io/discord to ask more questions. Mark is also there, a lot of his team is also there to help answer some of your questions.
With that, thank you everybody for attending this AMA and we’ll see you soon!
Mark Paul (Itheum):
Thank you all. See ya, bye.
Alpha Gamer Passport onboarding for gamers
Itheum is currently having limited Alpha Gamer Passport onboarding for interested WonderHero Gamers. Follow these steps to get registered:
- Join the Itheum discord. ( itheum.io/discord )
- Select your gamer role in discord under the channel “ITHEUM PLAYGROUND → Gamer Discussion”.
- Request interest in obtaining a gamer passport to Itheum Community Managers.
- Participate in the gaming channels and discussions.
- Once approved users will be requested to provide their email address, Discord ID, and Gamer wallet address.
- User will be directed to a Form to register their account.
- Upon submitting the Form. The user will then be required to communicate the completion of steps mentioned to the CM, as confirmation.
- The user will then be onboarded into the pilot program.
- Itheum’s data Adaptors will initiate the collection of gamer data for analysis. This data will be attached to the gamer for the purpose of data ownership and trade.
// About Itheum
Itheum empowers data ownership in the Web3 and Metaverse ecosystems and creates new market value for your data. It enables this by providing “decentralized data brokerage” technology. It’s a suite of tools that enable high-value data to be bridged from web2 to web3 and traded via peer-to-peer sales. It allows for “viral adoption” via our creative “Data NFTs” (provide “inner value” to NFTs and enable royalties / limited supply) and “NFMe ID” technology (a living Metaverse avatar representation of you — wrapped as an NFT and backed by personal data) and our innovative Data Coalition DAOs (which bulk trades your data). It also aims to be fully privacy-preserving, regulation-friendly and cross-chain, making it the most comprehensive core blockchain data infrastructure available in the market with use-cases in both the enterprise and retail space.
// About WonderHero
WonderHero is a Play to Earn Mobile RPG game for iOS and Android, where gamers can earn NFTs through tactical turn-based battles, and sell them on a peer-to-peer marketplace.
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